Devathon Public Discord Chat

sherp 03-Nov-16 09:23 AM

How often do we have to push to github?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:23 AM

often

Calucon 03-Nov-16 09:33 AM

i could exaggerate now and say every minute, but no. My rule of thumb is that i push everytime i reached a milestone, made an important change/fix or after having made serveral non crucial fixes. Anyways i think there will be more info about it when the contest start as rule 6 says: "Code will be pushed regularly" so i guess you have to push it every x minutes (i assume about 15-30)

sherp 03-Nov-16 12:24 PM

ok sounds good

I don't use git very often (not at all), and when I do use it I only initialize the repository once the first version of the project is done

And then only push on updates

shrkn 03-Nov-16 02:26 PM

Just got my first Overwatch Play of the Game

Paul Sauve 03-Nov-16 02:36 PM

@shrkn this is the on topic channel

shrkn 03-Nov-16 02:36 PM

Oh haha

I can't read :(

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 06:09 PM

Is there a specific Bukkit/Spigot build we're supposed to use?

And, where's the line between 'using public code' and referring to online documentation/question threads to look up syntax, for instance?

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:16 PM

@Markcreator you'll get the version of Spigot you're supposed to used when the contest starts.

About your 2nd question: i think it should be fine to look up things like "how to sort an array" or whatever it is your looking for but they don't want you to copy-paste it just from a website (code that's already written there [and accessible to everyone] = public code)

pls note that just my opinion about it, but would be nice if one of the Organizers can confirm it or correct it :)

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 06:25 PM

I see. I am assuming all details will be released on the site and social media when the event starts. As for the public code part. Just looking to refer to the plugin.yml format for convenience, getting the onCommand method prototype if I'm feeling especially lazy, that kind of thing. Would they be responding here, or should I reach out at other places, too?

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:32 PM

I'm sure they'll read it soon here and will respond then if necessary. About the examples you named, things like this should be fine in my opinion as they are just the basic "structure" and not operations that the plugin is executing.

Deleted User 03-Nov-16 06:33 PM

What MC version will it be fore?

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:34 PM

@Deleted User Alpha 1.0 ofc

no jk, just wait for the contest to start, but i assume 1.9 or 1.10

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 06:38 PM

Well, seems like there is very little preparation to do at this point in time, except for trying to sleep decently.

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:42 PM

Is maven allowed?

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:42 PM

yeah sleep is very important if you plan to work 24h straight or fall asleep and have you code destroyed cuz your head is on the kb ^-^

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 06:43 PM

If Maven would be allowed depends on how they require you to push your project to git. As long as it builds by their requirements you should be fine, though.

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:44 PM

It would be the safest method

Incase they get build errors

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:45 PM

@MatthewE can't think of a reason that speaks agains maven/gradle so i think you should be finr there as i planned to use it aswell

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:45 PM

Ah

Intellij would be safest

Because I know Evoltr uses it

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:46 PM

@MatthewE maven is specified as what you should use

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:46 PM

Really?

Are you allowed to test?

use stackoverflow

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:48 PM

don't use substantial length snippets of code and you're fine

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:49 PM

Like methods?

Like am I allowed to use the centered chat method? (edited)

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:49 PM

@Scarsz lol where is that specified or am i just to stupid to read? Would be nice if you can give me the link to it :)

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:50 PM

the rule is no public code nor libraries

which itself can't really work because obviously almost everyone uses a library some time or another

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:50 PM

I use json

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:50 PM

I feel like the rule is more "don't use substantial pieces of code & no Minecraft-specific 3rd party libraries"

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

Like minigame API lol

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

yeah, exactly

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

Idk who would use that.

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

or BarAPI

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

You mean BossBarAPI?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

maybe ProtocolLib will be allowed because it's kind of vague in it's usages

& yeah

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:51 PM

No.

That's like 3mb

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:52 PM

my main plugin is like 10 lol

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:52 PM

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/free-code-sending-perfectly-centered-chat-message.95872/

(Free Code) Sending Perfectly Centered Chat Message

Font Info Enumeration: http://pastebin.com/9Be2DF2z Method to send: http://pastebin.com/BADd6K43 Many just recommend using a...

Can we use this method?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:52 PM

memorize it beforehand :)

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:53 PM

http://pastebin.com/9Be2DF2z

public enum DefaultFontInfo{ A('A', 5), a('a', 5), B('B', 5), b(...

That's going to be fun

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:53 PM

doable :P

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:53 PM

wait?

Can you copy code?

Like redo it

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:53 PM

@Scarsz lol i'd say don't use any libs at all and if you really need one ask then and if they say no write it yourself

(edited)

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:53 PM

I think it's fine

They just mean don't use a huge API

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:54 PM

basic shit like Apache commons/gson are more likely than not fine

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:54 PM

Yeah

I use that all of the time

It's all small stuff

Like using JSON config

it's not that big of a deal (edited)

Just use YAML

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:55 PM

I use JSON for way more than just configs :S

easy object storage

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:55 PM

Same

Yeah.

Can you configure file templates with you're IDE?

To make things easier ?

Or make an intellij addon

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:56 PM

I'm sure file templates are fine lol

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 06:56 PM

Which is why I am hoping for a more operational public statement from the organizers on what exactly is fine, and what is not. There's alot of stuff that would make life easier, but what is okay is not exactly clear right now.

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:56 PM

Then can't you cheat?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 06:56 PM

file templates made completely by you, I mean

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 06:56 PM

Like have it generate every file

They should only allow file header

Like

Comments (edited)

Like that

Calucon 03-Nov-16 06:59 PM

@Markcreator as it's their first contest i think they haven't thought that questions like this can come up etc, but that's why we're here to ask and make it better in the future (to include answers to a majority of possible questions)

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 07:00 PM

Wait do we all get T-Shirts?

Calucon 03-Nov-16 07:00 PM

if you submit a valid project then yes according to the website

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 07:01 PM

Theirs like 20 people?

Doing it?

Well around 50+?

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 07:01 PM

I heard it was triple digits.

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 07:02 PM

I'm guessing not all of them will be at a professional level.

Calucon 03-Nov-16 07:02 PM

according to their twitter there are several hundreds signed up, but that doesn't say how many actually submit a valid project

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 07:02 PM

Yeah.

Paul can we use java 9?

jk

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 07:06 PM

@MatthewE @Calucon @Markcreator @shrkn we should probably be compiling a list of things we need to clear up, comment on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SpqUbjY7U-NXlUFCzwHN5xI-i8U4yT7y_r1IM5wi3_w/edit?usp=sharing and I'll add stuff to the list

Things needing to be cleared up about Devathon 2016

Allowed to use this method? https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/free-code-sending-perfectly-centered-chat-message.95872/ Libraries allowed? Apache Commons (StringUtils, FileUtils, etc.) Jsoup Gson Help from StackOverflow allowed?

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 07:11 PM

kk

Edit perms pls

Cameron 03-Nov-16 07:13 PM

@Paul Sauve @Evoltr could you possibly take a look at this when you have a chance? ^

Calucon 03-Nov-16 07:13 PM

@Scarsz lol will look at it tomorrow 1:15am here and i have work tomorrow

but great idea in general to give them a collection of constructive feedback and ideas (edited)

Markcreator 03-Nov-16 07:26 PM

Indeed, I commited all questions I had. I will however be on my way now, and check back later. Be well, all!

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:11 PM

Can we use mongodb driver api?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:12 PM

I'd assume database drivers are fine tbh

there's not really a reason to go around them

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:13 PM

Can we google mongo tutorials?

I don't remember the API 100%

I do for SQL

They should do a nexus server for libs

LoonyRules 03-Nov-16 09:15 PM

^^

Innectic 03-Nov-16 09:15 PM

Where will the theme be annouced? Twitter?

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:17 PM

Website...

I'm guessing

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:17 PM

likely multiple @everyone's on here

probably in #announcements

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:17 PM

Are they going to invite all contestant sto a organization?

That's only like 20 people

Out of the like 200

Inb4 hypixel developers win

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:18 PM

was just saying it'd be one of the targets for announcing the project starting

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:18 PM

Ah.

They followed me on twitter

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:20 PM

didn't follow me :(

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:21 PM

RIP

I would be happy if I didn't win

Free $10 T-Shirt

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:22 PM

you know what I just thought

there should be a Maven repo containing all of the allowed libraries that are fair play

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

Yeah

No

I came up with it

XD

LoonyRules 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

tbh it'd make sense

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

maven pom.xml's should only be allowed to reference one repository

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

Having a system maven lib

is gross

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

then that repo can have the correct spigot version and stuff

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:23 PM

having a local maven dependacy is gross (edited)

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:24 PM

ever heard of Intellij's built in maven wrapper?

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:24 PM

It's a plugin?

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:24 PM

built in maven wrapper

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:24 PM

Ah

Yeah.

the .m2 file

Or something

Accept my request to doc

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 09:27 PM

honestly like the idea of having one single allowed maven repo

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 09:27 PM

Yeah.

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 10:51 PM

<repositories> <repository> <id>Devathon</id> <url>https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Scarsz/Devathon/master/</url> </repository> </repositories> <dependencies> <dependency> <groupId>org.devathon</groupId> <artifactId>VaultAPI</artifactId> <version>1.5</version> </dependency> </dependencies>

https://github.com/Scarsz/Devathon

Scarsz/Devathon

Devathon Maven repository for allowed libraries

crude example of a devathon-managed repository but it works good

sherp 03-Nov-16 11:15 PM

Do you have to use maven?

Because I've legit never used it before

Scarsz lol 03-Nov-16 11:15 PM

very easy to use if you never have before, very robust tool

built into intellij too

sherp 03-Nov-16 11:20 PM

Ok I'll learn it tomorrow

If it's hard I will find you

And make you teach me

MatthewE 03-Nov-16 11:20 PM

You need to learn git as well

sherp 03-Nov-16 11:21 PM

I know git

Thanks tho

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 12:34 AM

@Paul Sauve any official answers for the list?

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:24 AM

Basic git and maybe maven

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:25 AM

?

talking about this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SpqUbjY7U-NXlUFCzwHN5xI-i8U4yT7y_r1IM5wi3_w/edit?usp=sharing

Things needing to be cleared up about Devathon 2016

General feedback, can we setup a Maven repository with only the allowed libraries contained within? That way the projects can just have that one repository in their builds as a requirement and there would be no confusion on which libraries could be used. Libraries allowed? Apache Commons (I/O, F...

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:26 AM

1. If you type it

2. If it's in the version of spigot we give you

3. Sure, but remember that code from SO is licensed specifically and your repo must maintain that license

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:27 AM

refer to the actual page

LoonyRules 04-Nov-16 01:27 AM

yh

it's more updated

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:27 AM

that cached screenshot is far outdated

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:28 AM

Most of those questions can be answered with logic

Do you have one you specifically want to ask me?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:28 AM

all of them are questions multiple people have had summarized into a list to make it easier for everyone

was hoping you could answer all of them

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:29 AM

It's late here so I can answer one quick but I'm not answering a document of questions on my phone

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:30 AM

able to use existing helper methods specifically center print or using tutorials on spigot for understanding something

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:30 AM

If you type it

All code in the contest is expected to be written by you

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:31 AM

can we like reference the document, just has to be literally typed by us?

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:31 AM

Yeah

If it came from your hands it's cool

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:32 AM

interesting, assuming that IntelliJ plugin is off bounds too then?

doesn't even help that much besides getting started

LoonyRules 04-Nov-16 01:32 AM

That's only to create projects though (edited)

Unless you're talking about Lambok

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:33 AM

one last thing, will compile all the answers tomorrow

is the commit frequently thing just basically saying don't save committing for fucking huge changes

like, commit when you hit a milestone kind of thing

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:33 AM

Yeah

1 commit isn't okay basically

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:34 AM

gotcha

how's the repositories going to work actually, just on our own github accounts and give the links to you guys?

LoonyRules 04-Nov-16 01:34 AM

Try and aim for a commit every 2-3 hours or something like that

Evoltr 04-Nov-16 01:34 AM

ohai

Repo's will be hosted on our github team

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:35 AM

guessing we'll be marked as contributors to them then?

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:36 AM

Yeah

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:37 AM

guessing the organizations name would be Devathon[year] or something to separate all the contributions then

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:37 AM

No just the repo

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:37 AM

wat

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 01:38 AM

Paulbgd-2016

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:38 AM

oh so the years just in the name

so summarizing here

- external libraries are completely not allowed; if a library is used inside of the provided spigot jar it's okay to jack that and use it

- using stackoverflow is fine as long as you type it out and do it yourself against copy pasting

- commits frequency should show progress against showing major changes

- following tutorials/helper methods such as center text are able to be utilized as long as we type them out ourselves; referencing from the browser and typing along permitted (edited)

only question left is how plugins will be judged

@Paul Sauve @Evoltr would one of you mind making a FAQ channel so I can paste all this in there

Evoltr 04-Nov-16 01:46 AM

Done @Scarsz lol

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:56 AM

@Evoltr say regarding using that plugin for IntelliJ for productivity?

makes creating the project faster + adds a minimal shortcut for event listeners

Evoltr 04-Nov-16 01:56 AM

Link?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:56 AM

also any rubric or something for how plugins will be judged (edited)

Evoltr 04-Nov-16 01:56 AM

nvm got it

It's unnecessary really

It makes a template, but we provide you with one

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 01:58 AM

more for the event handler thing

alt+insert, gives you a little menu to generate an event handler method

nothing really

Calucon 04-Nov-16 02:01 AM

imo if it's just generating templates/methods it should be fine. may give a little speed advantage, but nothing that huge

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 02:01 AM

@Evoltr only thing left is how plugins are gonna be judged, rubric or anything

yeah that's what I was thinking XXL

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 06:31 AM

...

You can do github maven repos?

I didn't know that

RIP

I spent like an hour setting up a nexus server

MiniDigger 04-Nov-16 06:32 AM

nexus is not that hard, lol

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 06:32 AM

ik

Slow PC

I meant was I didn't know you could use girhub for a repo with libs

Land 04-Nov-16 08:20 AM

Wasn't the theme supposed to be said today?

Calucon 04-Nov-16 08:23 AM

no at the start of he event so in less than 24h

CodeBeasty 04-Nov-16 08:41 AM

Make sure to set your alarm clock and eat a good breakfeast!

1

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 09:25 AM

Also feel free to only work part of the event

Even just 12 hours is a lot of time

rubik_cube_man 04-Nov-16 09:26 AM

Is there a specific version of bukkit that we have to use?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 09:29 AM

@rubik_cube_man #faq

rubik_cube_man 04-Nov-16 09:29 AM

Oops, missed that one xD Thanks

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 03:27 PM

Doing a test stream

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 03:28 PM

I already did ;P

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 03:43 PM

Anyone want me to watch me coding a timer?

Calucon 04-Nov-16 05:12 PM

Timer t = new Timer();

sry bad joke

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 05:12 PM

long startTime = System.currentTimeMillis();

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 05:13 PM

#ontopic

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 05:15 PM

http://www.strawpoll.me/11574636

Should 3rd party libraries (one's not provided in spigot.jar) be...

Vote Now! [Yes] [No]

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 05:17 PM

I strongly disagree, to be honest. I wish to see what people can do by themselves, not how well they can intergrate other people's code. Yes, it will allow for more complex or fancy things, but that is not the purpose of the contest to me.

2

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 05:18 PM

Paul has already said code quality will not be judged

the focus of this contest is not how you code in any fashion

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:18 PM

I feel it goes both ways personally

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 05:18 PM

it's the end product you achieve

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:18 PM

it allows less experienced people to feel a bit more confident if they have that helping hand

but it also dampens the whole idea of the contest

sherp 04-Nov-16 05:49 PM

I'm less experienced compared to everyone here AFAIK

and I'm fine with this rule set

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:49 PM

"AFAIK"?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

as far as I know

sherp 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

As far as I know

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

gotcha

Notoh 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

codename i fna

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

Im not saying less experienced, im referring to more of less comfortable being judged on without being in their element

@Notoh ❤

Notoh 04-Nov-16 05:50 PM

❤

codename 1v1 meh cops vs crims

Cameron 04-Nov-16 05:52 PM

@Notoh i would move this to #general :p

Notoh 04-Nov-16 05:53 PM

totally forgot channel name

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:33 PM

I am still awaiting a comment on what the entries will be judged on, unless I missed something.

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:34 PM

same

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

wow that poll really made me want to change it

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

^sarcasm?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

wasn't suppose to make you want to... lol

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

I am sensing some sarcasm.

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

It was my idea

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:39 PM

i guess it was just to gauge the standing of the contestants

well, 10 of them

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

correct

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

For next time?

Next Devathon ?

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

more/less

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

Their should be one every 6 months @Paul Sauve

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

We're not going to allow 3rd party libraries

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:40 PM

Next Devathon?

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:41 PM

I have done some premature brainstorming, are we allowed to force a world/map to the server to use? If so, would there be any constraints on the map-building part?

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:41 PM

Can I get some friends to help with building @Paul Sauve

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:42 PM

No teaming, I'm afraid.

LoonyRules 04-Nov-16 07:42 PM

What if the world was already built?

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:42 PM

That's not fair

I can't build for crap.

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:42 PM

It's a plugin, you run it and the plugins works

hoooowever you can generate stuff

and maybe you generate a prebuilt world

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:43 PM

but you cannot use the W/E schematic API

^ just something to keep in mind

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:43 PM

but that's pretty un-user friendly to force a world so that'd probably be bad anyways

LoonyRules 04-Nov-16 07:43 PM

true

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:43 PM

I could code a parser for it (edited)

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:44 PM

Well, my focus this time around is not to make a broadly-deployable featureset, but to craft an experience.

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:44 PM

inb4 the theme is modding/hacking

Like .ten

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:44 PM

You guys can force a world however you'd have to be pretty creative to make it user friendly

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:44 PM

Ive made hacked clients on forge

But only to test how mad mineplex's anticheat is

bad

*

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

I think im going to write up a few, short library classes for world management, particles, sounds, etc...

just to simplify and know what im walking in with

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

then you can't use them in the contest

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

Just type em out

Cameron 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

if i retype them i can :0

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

by the way, i've written a schematic parser if you check out my github

it's very small

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

Badlion nocheat is dope

@Paul Sauve link (edited)

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

Yeah but mineplex AC is cancer

I used my hacked client on there

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

ikr

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:45 PM

Only way I could get banned was by fucking flooding packets

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:46 PM

I hacked like 2 years ago

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:46 PM

I was playing for over 3 hours

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:46 PM

https://github.com/PaulBGD/Blocks/blob/master/src/main/java/me/paulbgd/blocks/api/block/loader/SchematicFormat.java

PaulBGD/Blocks

The new Blocks format. Supports faster and more scalable Minecraft Block files.

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:46 PM

And the only way I got banned was accidently pressing my flood packets key

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:46 PM

you'd have to write a NBT parser too though

actually you could use mc's i guess

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:47 PM

On what OS will the finished products be tested? Might be relevant when working with filepaths.

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

no idea

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

System.separator

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

luckily java is cross compatible

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

Fair point there.

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

i'll probably use linux, 2 judges use mostly mac, and the others probably windows

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

What are we judged on

?

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:48 PM

if your plugin makes a pink sheep or not

Scarsz lol 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

no rubric's been provided yet, they more or less won't budge on it

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

Also I have my fingers crossed that this won't need very complex config files, because config files are my weakness

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

well editing config files is also not very user friendly, so :p

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

inb4 it involves incredibly complex configs

and making them

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

Cant think of something to say so I will casually say hi... hi

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

@Blake Gaming please stay on topic

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:49 PM

I dont know the topic tho

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:50 PM

I'm garbage at data structures, anything Object Oriented is ez, but then anything procedural is my weakness

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:50 PM

Im garbage at objective c /( v_v)\ (edited)

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:50 PM

Im actually pretty good

Considering my Dad was the one who taught me a lot of programming

and he was one of the original users of the original C

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:51 PM

Nice!

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:51 PM

And it was ez transition to the objective

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:51 PM

I just started to learn. Pointers are so hard for me, you laugh

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:52 PM

I had the best halloween costume, it was a piece of paper with a stack trace on it taped to my shirt

inb4 on topic reminder

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:52 PM

Java:

int i = 5; System.out.println(i); OUTPUT : 5

C:

int i = 5; int *ip = &i; printf("%x",ip);

It just hurts for me to use 2 variables

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

Could you elaborate on 'user-friendly'? Are we talking in a context of deployment on an everyday server, as I was thinking of pretty much claiming the entire server to deploy a full gamemode/experience, to make something out of the ordinary.

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

I can second that, even as C as my first language

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

@Markcreator You want other people to use your plugin, so make it easy

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

What is the theme for devathon? Coming tomorrow? (edited)

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

The theme is "tomorrow"

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:53 PM

Kk

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

nah theme will be announced tomorrow

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

gud

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

I already have a plan

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

Fun fact: I was playing video games before I knew english

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

it's already in the README included in your project template

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

its weird

Oh we have one of those?

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

Link

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:54 PM

So we have a template file? (edited)

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2

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:55 PM

link tempalte

template

@Paul Sauve

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:55 PM

Allright, thank you for elaborating on what use-case we're focussing on.

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:56 PM

I'm actually all in for the T-shirt to I can hopefully convince my friends that I have somewhat of a life. Also, where is that template file?

Notoh 04-Nov-16 07:57 PM

I beg for github page

I lost it

And cant find it

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:57 PM

Link

@Paul Sauve

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:58 PM

The readme is included in the github project you'll be added to.

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:58 PM

How nice.

Markcreator 04-Nov-16 07:58 PM

So, tomorrow @MatthewE

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:59 PM

kk

Been trying to find github organization

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 07:59 PM

tag me if you find it ^w^ *gonna go play some csgo, cya (edited)

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 07:59 PM

$5

Or you don't code for 10 hours (edited)

Sure

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 07:59 PM

what the organization is easy to find lol

MatthewE 04-Nov-16 08:00 PM

devathon is not it

https://github.com/JoinDevathon

JoinDevathon

GitHub is where people build software. More than 18 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 46 million projects.

Found it

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:01 PM

boom

thx ❤

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 08:03 PM

nice

considering it's the exact same as the twitter

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:06 PM

On the devathon.org website, what is that style of gradient where its in "blocks" of colors- you have to look very close. It's like you zoomed in very much, and then rotated the whole thing to the side.

That sentence made no sense, just realised.

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:40 PM

where is the template @Paul Sauve

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:40 PM

@Notoh the template is a git repo

you will be assigned a git repo when the contest begins, that is where you will push code up to

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:41 PM

ohhh

k

Ty

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:41 PM

❤

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:41 PM

Fna level is up 900%

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:41 PM

<33

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:41 PM

❤

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

Do they know my github? or did I sign up with it?

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

You sign up w/ it

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

You signed up with it

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

Good

:3

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

:p

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

xDDDD

Deleted User 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

Oh Chipdev...

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

just a normal chipdev

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:42 PM

@Cameron which dev does networking for Hypixel or do you just not bother with most of it?

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

its been a w- Nah I did one like 3 minutes ago

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

@Notoh wouldnt know

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

wait this isnt general

rip

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

dont work there

heyitsleo 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

@Notoh codenameflip isn't a hypixel person xd

it's codename_b

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

b is senpai

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

^

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

I looked you up just to check

Notoh 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

rip

LOL

Blake Gaming 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

I love your twitter page image flip

Cameron 04-Nov-16 08:43 PM

#general

Notoh 04-Nov-16 09:15 PM

@Paul Sauve can my friend join late, he wants to join, but might join late

Paul Sauve 04-Nov-16 09:16 PM

he has to be registered before the contest starts

Notoh 04-Nov-16 09:16 PM

ok

LoonyRules 05-Nov-16 07:15 AM

How are you getting out github accoutns?

Because my github account has a different email to what I signed up with

Cameron 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

Whatever GitHub account you signed up with on github

LoonyRules 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

"How are you getting out github accoutns?"

our* accounts*

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

When you sign up

You sign in to GitHub

Cameron 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

^

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

There they have you

LoonyRules 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

I don't remember doing that O.o

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

in their website

Cameron 05-Nov-16 07:16 AM

Oh mai

LoonyRules 05-Nov-16 07:17 AM

I must've signed up a long time ago

Evoltr 05-Nov-16 07:48 AM

@everyone for the people who are going to stream, if you stream on beam you will get our bot in your channel, it has a few useful commands and stuff

benn 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

hmmm

sothatsit 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

hah @ everyone

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

I would stream to both if OBS LET ME ]\

Land 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

Darn OBS, always being annoying, eh?

MatthewE 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

When?

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 07:49 AM

Sk1er you can

https://restream.io (edited)

The service for multistreaming | Restream.io

Restream is the best way to stream to YouTube, Twitch, Beam Pro, Facebook and 30+ other services simultaneously

sothatsit 05-Nov-16 07:50 AM

streaming to 34 services at once xD

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 07:50 AM

yep

Oliver 05-Nov-16 07:50 AM

@Evoltr How do we find out about these super cool commands?

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 07:50 AM

>.> #general for this conversation

^ about streams

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

@Oliver well uh, currently !repo gives you a link to the repo

that's about it

I need features to add

sothatsit 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

!uptime

Oliver 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

@Paul Sauve Time remaining would be super cool.

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

ooh

Oliver 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

Shouldn't be hard either.

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:52 AM

how did i forgot about that one

alright i'm on it

8 minutes to code it

it's my mini-devathon

Autom 05-Nov-16 07:53 AM

command that tells us how much time is left on the devathon?

Oliver 05-Nov-16 07:53 AM

@Paul Sauve You'll be disqualified for starting early though, and also not using the right libraries.

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:53 AM

aww

do i have to use the beam api from scratch

nah that's fine their api is awesome

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 07:53 AM

You should make a 2016 badge or something, for the website (edited)

Oliver 05-Nov-16 07:53 AM

Yep, you can use Gson though as its in Spigot

Wes 05-Nov-16 08:09 AM

is it a possibility I could use http://msgpack.org/ ?

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 08:10 AM

if it's not in spigot @Wes

then don't think so

you can use GSON

Wes 05-Nov-16 08:10 AM

there are allowed libs out of spigot

I was asking if I could use another

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 08:13 AM

Can we make our project require multiple users?

sothatsit 05-Nov-16 08:14 AM

^ oooh yes, need to know this

mine is pretty cool, but not as fun with one person

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 08:15 AM

Exactly that.

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 08:19 AM

I think I'll be streaming but I still have to think about what i'll be doing haha.

I have just a question.

Is using external tools for modeling or player heads against the rules?

I mean that's not considered using code right?

Cameron 05-Nov-16 08:22 AM

what do we do with the run script?

Autom 05-Nov-16 08:24 AM

[14:23:27 WARN]: Plugin `Devathon_Project v1.0.0' uses the space-character (0x20) in its name `Devathon Project' - this is discouraged

tsk tsk

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 08:25 AM

huhu

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 08:27 AM

lol

you can change the name

Desetude 05-Nov-16 08:30 AM

Will it be judged depending on the concept or the content and how fun it is for users?

boomboompower 05-Nov-16 08:47 AM

you run it @Cameron

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 08:58 AM

>Do you want to recompile and restart the server? (y/n) yRebuilding project.. bash: mvn: command not found

Would anyone know how to fix this?

heyitsleo 05-Nov-16 08:58 AM

make sure mvn is in your path

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 08:59 AM

uh

does the folder apache-maven-3.2.5 exist inside of the build folder

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 09:00 AM

https://i.imgur.com/6YXm5aW.png

blake 05-Nov-16 09:00 AM

Can I modify the gitignore to include .idea? (Otherwise a lot will be committed) (edited)

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:02 AM

yep

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@Markcreator are you running the command inside of git bash?

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 09:03 AM

It's the server script which is run in bash. I tried to directly running mvn and this: https://i.imgur.com/MDsmhZZ.png

I didnt mess with any variables though

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:04 AM

do you have Java installed?

jdk 8?

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 09:07 AM

Yep

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:07 AM

Well you might have to add a variable for java since it didn't get added by default

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2619584/how-to-set-java-home-on-windows-7#6521412

How to set java_home on Windows 7?

I went to the Environment Variables in 'System' in the control panel and made two new variables, one for user variables and one for system variables. Both were named JAVA_HOME and both pointing to ...

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 09:16 AM

Fixed!

'if [ -f "build/apache-maven-3.2.5" ]; then' changed to 'if [ -d "build/apache-maven-3.2.5" ]; then'

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:17 AM

wow you're right

how did i miss that

i'm a bad bash hacker

and now we can't update the repositories

well thanks @Markcreator, I'll pass it on to people having issues with the mvn command

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 09:22 AM

^^

sherp 05-Nov-16 09:38 AM

Good morning

Time to start :D

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:38 AM

@sherp good luck!

Kisu 05-Nov-16 10:42 AM

Morning! I like the choice of theme!

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 10:43 AM

I have an idea, but it's not really machinery

Blake Gaming 05-Nov-16 10:43 AM

I hope

I really really hope

that bots are machinery

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 10:43 AM

how will the judges know how to use our plugins

Blake Gaming 05-Nov-16 10:43 AM

Well, minecraft runs on a machine, just make a bot that spams "YOUR COMPUTERS IP ADRESS" in chat!?

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

That will be up to you to decide @Andrew 🦃

1

Kisu 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

xD

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

ah so can I attach some type of documentation to the github repo?

1

USAGE.MD

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

Can I post my stream here?

Is that allowed?

Blake Gaming 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

sure

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

Have you heard about creating a help-page in-game?

Kisu 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

@Andrew 🦃 I'll probably throw a usage book into mine or a help command

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

Here is is: https://beam.pro/Pollitoyeye

Beam Interactive, Inc

Pollitoyeye - Beam

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

oo

yeah I'll probably do help

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 10:44 AM

Probably you'll hear me speaking in spanish sometimes

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 10:45 AM

Hablo Español? (i don't really now spanish lol)

Habla mby

sherp 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

um

we're allowed to register commands and listeners and stuff in different files right?

now it's ontopic <3

Blake Gaming 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

I guess

OscarWoHA 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

Yeah ❤

sherp 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

ok ty

Blake Gaming 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

❤

1

2

Kisu 05-Nov-16 10:47 AM

I think that should probably be fine

I don't see why not

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:08 AM

I think I have what I'm going to make figured out..

benn 05-Nov-16 11:09 AM

nice

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:14 AM

@Evoltr @Paul Sauve are we allowed to change the readme or not

Evoltr 05-Nov-16 11:14 AM

Yes you are

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:14 AM

neat

MatthewE 05-Nov-16 11:15 AM

I'm streaming beam.pro/matt11matthew

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:29 AM

for anyone interested in adding a help book, here's how to do it https://i.gyazo.com/a194e2a8e61a9bd031cf545153c6e0a7.png

Notoh 05-Nov-16 11:30 AM

ty

not helpful

But interesting

MatthewE 05-Nov-16 11:33 AM

obs crashed

...

Florian 05-Nov-16 11:40 AM

@Kisu That java conventions

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:42 AM

@Florian I haven't used java in awhile so plz no judge me

benn 05-Nov-16 11:42 AM

I think people can handle making a book

Paul 05-Nov-16 11:47 AM

@Kisu I'm judging you.

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:47 AM

r00d

Paul 05-Nov-16 11:49 AM

❤

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:54 AM

for not using java in a long time, most of my code is working first try

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:56 AM

am I the only one who's maven can't resolve the dependancies

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:56 AM

I think so

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:57 AM

neither. I said the issue. (edited)

maven can't find spigot.

http://scarsz.tech/i/c6hp3.png

I don't know how it's expected to either, there's no repos.

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:57 AM

have you run run-server.sh?

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:57 AM

multiple times

[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Building DevathonProject 1.0-SNAPSHOT [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [WARNING] The POM for org.spigotmc:spigot-api:jar:1.10.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT is missing, no dependency information available [WARNING] The POM for org.spigotmc:spigot:jar:1.10.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT is missing, no dependency information available

Kisu 05-Nov-16 11:58 AM

huh, my pom doesn't have any repos but it's running fine

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 11:58 AM

@Evoltr @Paul Sauve ?

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 12:01 PM

@Scarsz lol thats because you did mvn install:install-file

I think

otherwise ignore it

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 12:01 PM

didn't do that

and that wouldn't cause the pom to just not work

now the start script's maven is saying there's no compiler

[ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.1:compile (default-compile) on project DevathonProject: Compilation failure [ERROR] No compiler is provided in this environment. Perhaps you are running on a JRE rather than a JDK? [ERROR] -> [Help 1]

(edited)

just gonna copy shit myself, start script is too much of an annoyance

Kisu 05-Nov-16 12:04 PM

did you do anything besides run-server.sh after cloning?

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 12:04 PM

no.

Kisu 05-Nov-16 12:04 PM

huh weird

mycooltortoise 05-Nov-16 01:24 PM

Oh goodness I'm barely about to start rip

Oh god, the first thing that happens when I turn on my workspace computer is "The system is running in low-graphics mode"

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 01:27 PM

it's fine, pretty much no one will be working the full 24 hours

mycooltortoise 05-Nov-16 01:27 PM

Fresh install on the computer real quick hold on

Autom 05-Nov-16 01:28 PM

Mang... think i just found a bug in spigot/bukkit

mycooltortoise 05-Nov-16 01:29 PM

What would that be?

@Autom

Autom 05-Nov-16 01:29 PM

I'm trying custom crafting recipes with custom items, but i can't seem to set the output of the crafting table

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:29 PM

Yeah I got that problem a while ago

They need to fix that (if it is a bug)

Autom 05-Nov-16 01:30 PM

well poop

there goes a good hour

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:30 PM

mycooltortoise 05-Nov-16 01:31 PM

God bless fiber, ubuntu download is taking 2 minutes with a torrent

Bless the sun gods for the invention

JamesJ 05-Nov-16 01:32 PM

http://i.imgur.com/JGqptpG.png

@Paul

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:32 PM

LMAO

You pushed it?

JamesJ 05-Nov-16 01:32 PM

gotta add some design now

no not yet

still committing tho

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:33 PM

Ah

Send me the link once it's done

I wanna see this code lmao

(I'm not competing in this, so I'm irelivant)

JamesJ 05-Nov-16 01:35 PM

https://github.com/JoinDevathon/JamesJ-2016

JoinDevathon/JamesJ-2016

JamesJ-2016 - This is the repository for your Devathon Project.

@Paul

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:36 PM

Oh god

Make it bigger!

JamesJ 05-Nov-16 01:37 PM

nah g

5m is big enough

Paul 05-Nov-16 01:37 PM

No it isn't!

Kisu 05-Nov-16 01:49 PM

I'm making a set of machines that are "more efficient" then vanilla creating techniqes, e.g. a saw gives you 2x the slabs you get from crafting

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 04:57 PM

Erm, any organizers around? My PC's internal time is a bit broken.. so the commit times on my repo are weird, can you guys verify and let me know if this will be a problem? (edited)

flying gorilla 05-Nov-16 04:59 PM

That should be fine

Markcreator 05-Nov-16 05:03 PM

Allright, thanks

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:27 PM

I made this, not as impressive as others but that's the time I had to do it and took my time to do the armorstand model:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVVEMTFtj9g

Pollitoyeye

My entry for @joindevathon

spod 05-Nov-16 05:27 PM

looks cool

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:28 PM

Psdata. Yeah I had to add dubstep, isn't youtube for that? XD

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:29 PM

Cool

It is way more impressive than my hunk of junk

Just the only im decent at is making minigames

and 24 hours is way too short

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:31 PM

I don't think someone will be 24h coding.

Well you can but you'll start losing faculties

After 6h my head hurts, can't imagine 24h

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:32 PM

im 9 hours in

And still fine

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:33 PM

@Pollitoyeye That looks lit af

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:33 PM

My thing is garbage

I Wish I couldve made a minigame

But minigames take weeks to make

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:33 PM

they are minigames ;)

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:33 PM

No but like

when I make a minigame

I wanna go the full length

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:33 PM

Look @ what this guy made so far https://www.twitch.tv/deanveloper

Deanveloper - Twitch

Devathon

He did some character from Overwatch

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:34 PM

Abdul, what's the meaning of "lit af"

I'm from spain

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:34 PM

Awesome

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

Awesome, cool

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

Google isn't the best translating that

haha

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

Aha

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

We don't usually study those kinds of words, unfortunately

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

Yeah, it's slang so you wouldn't

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

The only good thing about my plugin is it has really corny pickup lines and self help books

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

Google translation for lit af: power on

GG

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

LMAO

Notoh 05-Nov-16 05:35 PM

the rest of my plugin is the literally what comes out of my butt

crap

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:36 PM

Do you think people will read the instruction books?

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:36 PM

meanwhile this is what I am building

http://i.minidigger.me/2016/11/javaw_05_23-34-38.png

nice machine am I right?

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:36 PM

What are you meaning to make it?

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:36 PM

Is that a machine? XD

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

Toothpaste generator?

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

its a robot :D

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

It pretends* to be a robot

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

and your task is to fix it

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

xDD

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

I am building bigger stuff too

Paul 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

xD

ok

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

that is supposed to be the tuturial

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:37 PM

When devs gotta build.

MiniDigger 05-Nov-16 05:38 PM

well, nobody said that ppl are not allowed to build for me so: can somebody build me something? :D

we are only prohibited to share code :D

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:38 PM

That's true.

Cameron 05-Nov-16 05:38 PM

Am I the only one who went for a person of interest reference?!

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:39 PM

I saw it on spigot.

So.

Cameron 05-Nov-16 05:39 PM

?

Pollitoyeye 05-Nov-16 05:39 PM

Didn't know what you said, so I invented an answer

Lol, discord tradutions

In spanish playing is splitted

in to words

one for playing games

and another one for playing music

So basically here I say the playing games one

with the IntelliJ Idea word after that

It seems like they are playing a coding game.

dean 05-Nov-16 06:02 PM

Oh, didn't notice that you put my stream in here @Paul! Thank you

Paul 05-Nov-16 06:02 PM

It's alright

Hope you're enjoying the food haha

dean 05-Nov-16 06:03 PM

Haha I am, don't think I'm going to stream when I get back, need to really focus and hunker down to get weapons and hopefully animations

Notoh 05-Nov-16 06:24 PM

My plugin won't build wtf

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 06:34 PM

How can I get the bot in my beam stream?

@CodeBeasty

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 06:47 PM

@Notoh why not

Yamakaja 05-Nov-16 06:53 PM

Are you fing kidding me? Why does my minecraft launcher have to break right now?!

erik 05-Nov-16 06:55 PM

I havent done frontend development in so long holy fuck

i cant get anything nice done XDD

CodeBeasty 05-Nov-16 07:15 PM

@Gyllie² I am pretty sure you have to put #Devathon in the titile

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:20 PM

@Gyllie² it should be in there automatically

oh

you have to have you Beam registered on your account page on https://devathon.org

CodeBeasty 05-Nov-16 07:20 PM

^^

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 07:20 PM

and make sure not to include https://beam.pro, because someone did that and it broke the bot when i initially tested

so it just ignores those

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 07:26 PM

how can I check if it's in?

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 08:07 PM

@MiniDigger oh that was what your robot code was about

dean 05-Nov-16 08:25 PM

Will interference with normal gameplay be a factor?

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 08:25 PM

"user friendly"

dean 05-Nov-16 08:25 PM

Hmmm okay

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 08:27 PM

if this was 48 hours

i would be so happy

Kisu 05-Nov-16 08:54 PM

Added another machine - jigsaw for making slabs https://youtu.be/faYw1pj_F80

Keith Mitchell

Devathon 2016 Machine demo 2

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 09:00 PM

Jeez...

dean 05-Nov-16 09:00 PM

Ste.Va can shoot now

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 09:26 PM

is that plugin wise O.o

dean 05-Nov-16 09:26 PM

yes

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:27 PM

yup

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 09:31 PM

@Kisu how the actual fuck do you do that

entities?

well yeah clearly entities

but what specifically

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

loads of armorstands with blocks i'm guessing

dean 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

He said earlier

resource pack I'm pretty sure

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

using a resource pack

making it with entities would take too long lol

Scarsz lol 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

ah right

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

resource pack is allowed

dean 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

my steva is with entities lmao (edited)

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 09:32 PM

ohhhh

I just created something with armor stands

but it's very basic

didn't had much time due to work

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:35 PM

We're at 65 people participating so far, can't wait to see the results

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:36 PM

@Paul Sauve my plugin is like 2lines from done

WHere do I post it

?

Also note:

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:36 PM

@Notoh just make sure it's in the devathon repo beforehand

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:36 PM

IT DOES NOT WORK WITH SHELL SCRIPT SERVER, you must run it via the normal batch file

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:36 PM

What doesn't

dean 05-Nov-16 09:36 PM

What

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

Shell Script server just wouldn't build for me

It would bug and not build every single time

dean 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

Check #announcements

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

@Paul Sauve I can't wait to see them too, sounds like people are making interesting stuff

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

I tried that dean

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

We'll try to get your project to build if it doesn't, but we won't put in too much extra work

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

Can I just add a file called REALLYIMPORTANTREADME.txt

dean 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

Not sure why it wouldn't build

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

that says use a normal bat

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

@Kisu Definitely! My personal favorite is the person who made a 3d printer

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:37 PM

yeah ik its weird

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

I don't judge, so my opinions don't matter

(edited)

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

Mine is a utility bot that says pickup lines, and reads to you disturbing fanfiction

dean 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

I never asked but I hope a mech counts as a machine

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

hahaha

yeah yours is fine dean

dean 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

cool cool

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

@Paul Sauve oooh, I want to see that! Was thinking of making one but couldn't figure out a way to

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

the theme is pretty open ended, intepret it as you wish

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:38 PM

Also It has a built in coding guide

meta.setPages(Arrays.asList("So you want to learn to program, and here's how.", "Step 1: Install Microsoft Word. Microsoft Word is the only true coding program, and it will make you a better programmer.", "Step 2: Type random gibberish as all coding is gibberish. Because of this all good computer programs are only successful if the dev is lucky", "And you might be wondering then how was the computer invented, and the secret is, Alan Turing, Inventor of the Computer was very high when he made his discovery.", "Step 3: Get lucky. If you accidently type the right thing, rich and famous ez. The End."));

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

Mine has generators, power banks, and powered machines

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

Just read that

Its a book

That the bot reads to you

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

@Notoh if u bold code in microsoft word, it runs faster

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

You know, i just had an idea for a plugin that reads a book out loud to you :?

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

it doesnt read out loud

It just reads it to you

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

no it was just my idea

dean 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

That's a huge resource pack

Paul Sauve 05-Nov-16 09:39 PM

i guess that's what i'd do if i entered

would be fun to mess with sounds

@dean you done streaming? i was hoping to see where you're at

dean 05-Nov-16 09:40 PM

Yeah

Might stream later but I'm cranking some stuff out and don't want to interrupt my flow

Notoh 05-Nov-16 09:41 PM

Also guys

help me find more pickup lines

My bot only has 234

23

But thats like barely any

dean 05-Nov-16 09:41 PM

I was gonna say 234 is plenty haha

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:55 PM

https://i.gyazo.com/72172d0c1e2c120c4531d690bb494dd6.png

dean 05-Nov-16 09:55 PM

That's some cool stuff

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:55 PM

omg

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:55 PM

thanks

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:55 PM

i wish i had cubik studio right now

dean 05-Nov-16 09:56 PM

http://img.deanveloper.com/Y3hthO.png

gotta adjust the colors to make it more dva

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 09:56 PM

@Kisu You've done that and I'm here using heads and blocks. Rip

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:56 PM

Lol i broke my thing

so power banks can output in to each other

two of them outputted to each other

and its crazy right now

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:57 PM

@Andrew 🦃 I'm actually only using Cubik for the conversion, I'm creating them in MagicaVoxel since it's easier to do basic models like that in there, and then using Cubik's import features to convert it to JSON

Andrew 🦃 05-Nov-16 09:57 PM

do you have cubik studio?

which recently came out

Kisu 05-Nov-16 09:57 PM

yeah, bought a license like 2-3 years ago, this is the first time I've really used it

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 10:03 PM

You should do more.

You make some nice models!

Kisu 05-Nov-16 10:07 PM

thanks! I've been working on a lot of voxel models like that for a gamedev project I've been working on, so I have lots of practice

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 10:09 PM

my creation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZN7fuOP78Q

GyllieGyllie

Devathon - Wireless redstone explained

Notoh 05-Nov-16 10:11 PM

Nice

looks cool

Mine is a bot that reads disturbing fanfiction to you and gives you pickup lines

SPeaking of

I need more pickup lines

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 10:12 PM

Well I had a lot more in my mind but no time, only 3 hours

Notoh 05-Nov-16 10:12 PM

I've been up for 15 and a half hours

Woke up at 6am

To code

Gyllie² 05-Nov-16 10:12 PM

I planned on streaming the full thing but then work came in between

Notoh 05-Nov-16 10:13 PM

I streamed the first 2 hours

But then im like nah

Too tired to talk

So ima just code silently

Deleted User 05-Nov-16 10:44 PM

Moved over to beam to complete the last part of the event https://beam.pro/bwfcwalshy

Beam Interactive, Inc

bwfcwalshy - Beam

Yamakaja 06-Nov-16 06:44 AM

#FactoryStyle https://i.yamakaja.tech/devathon.png

william 06-Nov-16 07:34 AM

Noice

Yamakaja 06-Nov-16 07:51 AM

One part of my plugin, what do you think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcVNO-yUX6g&feature=youtu.be

Yamakaja

Pipes

Tang 06-Nov-16 07:55 AM

jesus christ why so small text

Yamakaja 06-Nov-16 07:55 AM

Because i like my gui small

Just watch it fullscreen

Markcreator 06-Nov-16 08:00 AM

TIMES UP WOW

Yamakaja 06-Nov-16 08:00 AM

dun dun DUN

MiniDigger 06-Nov-16 08:09 AM

it would be pretty cool if you would setup a test server and stream the judging so we call all see the project of the others in action and see your reactions

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:10 AM

you should gamemode 3 people that login

so they can spectate

Land 06-Nov-16 08:10 AM

Yeah

Just make a Devathon plugin that like onPlayerJoin it gamemode 3's anyone and removes all permissions so nothing can be messed up

Cameron 06-Nov-16 08:10 AM

@MiniDigger i agree

@Evoltr how possible wouild that b :>

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

but what if players interfere

with the plugin

Land 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

They can't

MiniDigger 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

how would they in specator mode?

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

i mean someone might use

Land 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

That's why you put them in spectator mode & remove permisisons

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

Bukkit.getPlayers()

and it still shows spectators

Land 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

:/ You're kinda right on that one (edited)

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

and it wasn't designed/tested for multiple people for some reason

Land 06-Nov-16 08:11 AM

I think it would be worth it

And if it says that it gets all players in the instructions, they could kick us (edited)

sothatsit 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

My plugin has no permissions though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

MiniDigger 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

if your plugin only works with one player on the server thats a bug

Deleted User 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

Yeah many don't

Cameron 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

a part of my plugin doesnt even work

came across it 2 minutes before the push access closed

Markcreator 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

I got everything done in the last 3 seconds

3

Cameron 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

^^

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:12 AM

^^

Paul 06-Nov-16 08:32 AM

#Vote4Beam2k16 http://feedback.beam.pro/forums/382521-lazers-and-shiny-things/suggestions/16975288-add-devathon-group-as-a-game

PaulBGD

Add Devathon Group as a "Game"

Devathon is a programming contest that has been on the top of the games listing for the last 12 hours as "Programming". We're a new contest, but we match a lot more of the demographic of Beam than other added programming contests like Ludum Dare.

Andrew 🦃 06-Nov-16 08:34 AM

Devathon Theme #2, automate voting on http://feedback.beam.pro/forums/382521-lazers-and-shiny-things/suggestions/16975288-add-devathon-group-as-a-game (edited)

PaulBGD

Add Devathon Group as a "Game"

Devathon is a programming contest that has been on the top of the games listing for the last 12 hours as "Programming". We're a new contest, but we match a lot more of the demographic of Beam than other added programming contests like Ludum Dare.

Evoltr 06-Nov-16 10:51 AM

@Vanture

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:51 AM

@CodeBeasty do you play minecraft ?

CodeBeasty 06-Nov-16 10:52 AM

ya

well sometimes

not that much tho

I play overwatch

I just study all day now

Markcreator 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

@Evoltr

CodeBeasty 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

@shrkn

Evoltr 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

hi

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

i saw

Markcreator 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

Pm

Scarsz lol 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

is judging already done

Evoltr 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

yes i saw its all gucci

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

@CodeBeasty do you play overwatch on ps4

if you do lets play

Markcreator 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

❤

CodeBeasty 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

"is judging already done" lol

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:53 AM

lol

https://twitter.com/venturianmc

The latest Tweets from VenturianMC (@VenturianMC). VenturianMC is an upcoming server network. More info coming soon!. Ventu HQ

march 1 2016

then twitter went scarce

which moderator is that joe

kenneth goodin

yes

yeah i play minecraft

all the time

flying gorilla 06-Nov-16 10:55 AM

hm?

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:55 AM

@flying gorilla do you be goodin

flying gorilla 06-Nov-16 10:55 AM

thas me

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:55 AM

what does "goodin" mean exactly

goodin as in

treats

something else

idk

flying gorilla 06-Nov-16 10:55 AM

well see it's my last name

shrkn 06-Nov-16 10:56 AM

oh

i like it

ducc 06-Nov-16 10:56 AM

this man needs a #ontopic music

flying gorilla 06-Nov-16 10:56 AM

hi joe

MiniDigger 06-Nov-16 10:56 AM

why did the avg intelligence of the ppl here dropped that low? it was such a friendly place during the contest :O

Serializator 06-Nov-16 10:57 AM

Because I just came

ducc 06-Nov-16 10:57 AM

its sad i had no idea the contest started (edited)

Kisu 06-Nov-16 10:59 AM

good luck guys

Notoh 09-Nov-16 05:24 PM

When will we get our scores?

and t shirts

Land 09-Nov-16 05:28 PM

Agreed ^

Andrew 🦃 09-Nov-16 05:43 PM

^

Literally 0 official updates (edited)

benn 09-Nov-16 06:16 PM

Soon™ (edited)

𝙹𝚘𝚛𝚍𝚊𝚗 10-Nov-16 03:27 AM

Imagine they come and say ITS A PRANK LMAO and they took every piece of code for hypixel to create a minigames about machines LOL

LoonyRules 10-Nov-16 06:15 AM

and how exactly would they've retrieved the Hypixel code?

Pollitoyeye 10-Nov-16 08:19 AM

He meant use the code that contestants did to use it on a hypixel minigame

LoonyRules 10-Nov-16 08:49 AM

But no judges are Hypixel devs?

Oh the repo's are public aren't they

So you can view whatever you want

I'm dumb

CodeBeasty 10-Nov-16 08:51 AM

@Pollitoyeye if you put a certain license on the code, it would be illegal for any of the judges or anyone else to use it in their own project.

Pollitoyeye 10-Nov-16 08:59 AM

I know, I was just explaining what Aquazus meant to Loony.

CodeBeasty 10-Nov-16 08:59 AM

Ok

boomboompower 11-Nov-16 01:52 AM

@CodeBeasty so about when we get results?

Calucon 11-Nov-16 02:21 AM

@boomboompower i'd say the best answer is the (famous) hypixel SoonTM

MiniDigger 11-Nov-16 02:28 AM

its not the famous hypixel SoonTM but the famous blizzard soon™... @Calucon

"Soon™: Copyright 2004-2016 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarant

ee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon.""

Calucon 11-Nov-16 02:30 AM

ah oke, don't know blizzard has this ^-^

MiniDigger 11-Nov-16 02:38 AM

you are to young :D

Calucon 11-Nov-16 03:24 AM

sure? ;p

Evoltr 11-Nov-16 04:58 AM

Soontmtmtmtm

JamesJ 21-Nov-16 02:17 PM

any idea when winners will be announced / shirts released?

Paul Sauve 21-Nov-16 04:01 PM

@JamesJ We're still working on judging, there's a lot of entries.

JamesJ 21-Nov-16 04:02 PM

plz tell me you've sorted those that have entered and those that haven't ;-;

Paul Sauve 21-Nov-16 04:03 PM

What are you talking about?

JamesJ 21-Nov-16 04:03 PM

the repos that had code pushed to them

and those that didnt

Paul Sauve 21-Nov-16 04:03 PM

We know what projects have been pushed too lol..

JamesJ 21-Nov-16 04:03 PM

oh thank god

!MADSOLADEN 24-Dec-16 04:53 AM

How many of you are judging?

Paul Sauve 24-Dec-16 11:46 AM

We have 3 judges

Autom 24-Dec-16 03:01 PM

Rip those people

Lots of stuff to go through

LucaRallis 16-Feb-17 09:15 PM

When will the next contest be announced?

Paul Sauve 16-Feb-17 09:16 PM

Honest answer: I don't know

we still have stuff to finish up from this contest before we can even start planning the next one

then we have to find sponsors which is definitely the hardest part

luckily though since this contest went pretty well we have a base to advertise ourselves to sponsors this time around

Kisu 16-Feb-17 09:41 PM

LucaRallis 16-Feb-17 09:42 PM

Well I'm super interested in helping judge the next one so keep an eye out for a message after you release the next ones date.

Autom 18-Feb-17 03:51 AM

I kinda do feel like creativity and originality were somewhat similar

1

LucaRallis 18-Feb-17 07:42 PM

Yeah, I think that the categories for judging should be changed.

1

Paul Sauve 21-Feb-17 01:49 PM

@LucaRallis Any ideas then?

Creativity was more so how creative you'd go with the theme

Originality is just originality

Autom 21-Feb-17 04:34 PM

i really dont want to make it sound bad, you all did a great job. but I think all three judging categories were flawed. creativity and originality feel really similar, and implementation was more like style/user experience. My suggestion would be to merge originality and creativity together, call it creativity. Then implementation, could be kept, but i dont think any judge will have time to actually look at how things are implemented. Rather I'd change it to how things were presented to the player, like instructions, visual and auditive effects, general user experience. Maybe I'd call that Presentation. Lastly I'd introduce a new category, to do with the depth, intricacy, does it have a number of interesting features, how "complete" does it feel. I'd call that one Complexity. Just my two cents. Maybe this helps, maybe not. In any case, it was a great event and I'm looking forward to the next one!

sothatsit 21-Feb-17 06:14 PM

A category for complexity seems stupid. Personally I would value simplicity over complexity any day...

Autom 21-Feb-17 06:39 PM

Alright, i understand, maybe i'm not using the correct wording. I just thought that a plugin with more things to do should get more points. This can be in multiple ways of course, not just adding more different things, but just expanding on one concept adds depth too. Idk I'm just sharing my ideas :)

LucaRallis 21-Feb-17 09:57 PM

I agree with @Autom

Paul Sauve 23-Feb-17 01:20 AM

@Autom I don't think you understand the categories based off what I understand from your message

implementation isn't "did you use OOP structures in your code and keep things using a small amount of memory" it's "When I run your code, does it work like I expect it to (and more importantly, does it work)"

Implementation is supposed to be style/user experience, no one wants to use a buggy plugins that works only in a specific way (edited)

Presentation doesn't quite work because it doesn't quite cover how well it works

Creativity covers what you define "complexity", did you come up with a flushed out idea?

Implementation exists because you should be able to get 2/3 points for having an amazing idea even if you're not that good of a programmer.

I do agree however that originality is covered pretty well by creativity. If anyone has a suggestion for a 3rd thing to judge for that isn't complexity, I'd love to hear it.

Autom 23-Feb-17 10:37 AM

Ah yea I understand, thanks for clarifying

Red_Epicness 15-Mar-20 09:03 PM

Devathon 2020

?

Evoltr 16-Mar-20 07:34 AM

mayb